Tkinter/IDLE crash

[alex at magenta.com]

In article <82pkpk$3o0$1 at mirv.unsw.edu.au>,
  simon at george.maths.unsw.edu.au (Simon Evans) wrote:
>    I was making my first foray into Tkinter last night (using Py 1.5.2
>  and IDLE with Win 95).
    [snip]
>  the "Quit" button, and *everything* quits. The window, the IDLE
>  session, everything! Goodbye python, goodbye IDLE, hello desktop.

The release notes for the current PythonWin mention this, and
I get identical problems (at home, on Win98 -- not here at
work, on Win/NT, where things appear stable).  There is
something badly broken with 1.5.2 on both Win95 and Win98,
it seems -- something that affects IDLE, PythonWin, _and_
the command line interpreter too, to different degrees.  I
get a crash on _exit_ from the whatever-environment by far
most of the time -- always, if I've been using Tkinter in
the session; and, not often, crashes "in the middle", such
as you describe.

I consider this to be the biggest current "environment"
problem with Python -- that the latest implementation is
SO fragile on the (alas) single most widespread platform,
that it cannot really be used to develop for it:-(.

I just joined the PSA, so, among other benefits, I'll get
access to the current betas of PythonWin -- and, if the
bugs persist there, I guess I'll try to spend some of my
abundant free time to understand the crashes better (e.g.,
by throwing NuMega's DevPartner at the code -- sometimes
it does help in finding not-quite-kosher system calls, &c).


Alex


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