[Adrian Eyre, on immortal cyclic trash] > I can dream up a million ways to kludge around this bug, but I > was referring to a 'fix' to the Python source code. How hard can > it be? It's unclear, but I can give you a lower bound: in all the years people have been whining about how easy this is to "fix", nobody has managed to fix it. your-turn<wink>-ly y'rs - tim