And Now For Something Completely Similar !!!

[David Oppenheimer]

I found the PIL (still can't swallow this PIL with the 1.5.2 distribution ...
lol) here:
http://www.python.org/download/download_windows.html

I have tried downloading and installing your package (py15) from here
http://www.pythonware.com/downloads.htm#pil
and found that now everything now seems to work (although with a version of
Python that is over a year removed from the most current distro available).

Which leads me to two very interesting questions:

1) Do I have to wait for you to get around to making a new pre compiled
package to use PIL with Python 1.5.2?

2) Why isn't a module which has broad appeal like the Python Imaging Library
included with the core Python 1.5.2 package?  For that matter why not include
NumPy also.  It sure would save alot of headaches for those of us that don't
dream in 1's and 0's.

I'm going to guess that your answer would be something along the lines of
"code bloat", but since 1.5.1, the code has bloated from 2.3 MB to 5 MB.
What difference would it make to add another 256 K (to include PIL only) or
1.4 MB (to add PIL and NumPy) to the core distribution available from the
main Python.org site?!  In the same way that the current installer asks if
you want to install Tcl, this IMHO better future version could ask if you
want to install the PIL module and/or the NumPy module as part of its
installation dialogue.  It could have a list of check boxes in a dialogue box
that would read as follows during installation:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
In addition to the main Python distribution I would like to install:

(  ) Tcl
(  ) PIL
(  ) NumPy

To install Python without any of these extra components, leave the check
boxes unmarked and click on the <NEXT> button.

(If you decide that you need these components in the future, just rerun the
installer and select the correct component.)

                               <NEXT>         <CANCEL>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Perhaps you could make such a suggestion to the Pythons In Power.

Thanks,

David O.

Fredrik Lundh wrote:

> David Oppenheimer <davidopp at megsinet.net> wrote:
> > So, if anyone has any ideas what the heck I'm doing wrong with path
> > declarations or if there's something else that I am supposed to do (I
> > figure this is probably some kind of "magic trick" that is inadequately
> > documented just to frustrate us beginners), please drop me a line.
>
> -- what installer are you using?
>
> -- did Python work right away after installation, or have
> you moved things around?
>
> -- if you didn't use the py15 installer available from our
> site, where did you get the PIL sample files?
>
> </F>