In article <90u5mo$kr at gap.cco.caltech.edu>, Nathaniel Gray <nospam at caltech.edu> writes > >It seems to me that flaming newbies only serves to make this a less >friendly newsgroup. Come on. Its not fair to blame the flaming newbies. <grin> Ian Hobson Every time we teach a child something, we prevent him from inventing it himself. - Jean Piaget