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Fri Feb 18 16:24:50 EST 2000
Warren Postma wrote:
> > every single example in that tutorial can be written in
> > Tkinter, using about 50% as much Python code. and
> > things like layout management and event handling looks
> > embarrasingly primitive compared to Tkinter.
> Enlighten me on what makes Tkinter so 'advanced'. It seems that Guido
> cribbed up this Tkinter thing and stuck fiercely by it, without so much as
> peep on what makes Tk worth keeping when Tcl wasn't worth using too.
> Everything I hate about Tcl is wrong with Tk too. Show me a Tcl/Tk demo
> makes a nice "Outlook 98" style user interface frame set.
sorry, I don't program Tcl/Tk.
if you were talking about Tkinter, check Grayson's
book. designing good looking user interfaces takes
time and talent. if you have neither, no user inter-
face toolkit will help.
> then show me something in Tk that isn't ugly, in your
> humble opinion.
how about this one?
don't know about you, but *I* think it's
> 1. wxWindows looks nicer to me. Subjective, but I can't get over how
> ugly Tkinter is. Nitpicking? Perhaps, but how do I remove those
> "-----" lines at the top of all the pull-down menus? Yuck.
tried setting the "tearoff" option to false?
> 2. If Python is so much better than Tcl, why does Python require the
> Tcl interpreter be running to get Tkinter going? Fact is Tk is
> tightly bound to Tcl, and therefore Python is tightly bound to Tcl.
> I like Python. I hate Tcl. I have to install Tcl/Tk and Python just
> to run IDLE. Yuck yuck yuck!
we've run out of intelligent arguments, have we?
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