The pygimp page reference should be http://www.daa.com.au/~james/pygimp/ (typo in the previous post) Skip Montanaro | http://www.mojam.com/ skip at mojam.com | http://www.musi-cal.com/ 847-971-7098 "Languages that change by catering to the tastes of non-users tend not to do so well." - Doug Landauer