Open letter to Guido van Rossum
Guido van Rossum
guido at beopen.com
Mon Jul 24 11:00:00 EDT 2000
Dan,
Thanks for your letter. I'll try to address each point separately:
Point: Oracle. I know zit about Oracle, and I don't have an Oracle
database sitting in a corner here, so I don't know how I could decide
between the existing solutions! (I see at least three in the Vaults
of Parnassus.) This is an issue better brought up in the db-sig, but
last I looked the db-sig was comatose itself. I really don't know
what else I could do!
Point: Apache module. As far as I know this is the module currently
favored by Greg Stein, who knows the Apache internals far better than
I do. If you have specific problems with mod_python, I suggest
sending a bug report (or better: a patch!) to its author (see
http://www.modpython.org/).
Point: MySQL. Almost the same as Oracle, except PythonLabs team
member Jeremy Hylton knows a lot about MySQL. I've cc'ed him.
Jeremy, can you recommend a specific MySQL extension? We could do
something about this, e.g. include it in the core distribution (if
it's orphaned and the license allows it) or at least have a
recommendation on python.org.
--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://dinsdale.python.org/~guido/)
> Subject: Open letter to Guido van Rossum
> From: Dan Grassi <Dan at Grassi.org>
> To: "Guido van Rossum" <guido at beopen.com>
> Cc: <python-list at python.org>, <psa-members at python.org>,
> <python-dev at beopen.com>
> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 00:02:57 -0400
>
> Hi Guido,
>
> Well, I am rather ambivalent about 1.6. See, I really like python and
> want to use it at work, a dot-com --- in fact I would like it to be the
> standard. But I doubt that it will come to pass, there are to many
> stumbling blocks.
>
> First and foremost is database support as a part of the languare
> _package_! In particulay I need Oracle on ix86, a not uncommon database.
> But that is no trivial task. Thus python fails because it can not be
> used in a production environment that involves Oracle.
>
> Then there is the mod-python/mod_pyapache mess, two competing versions
> both with major problems ranging from re not working in the module
> version of mod_python to memory leaks in both versions. Memory leaks are
> a major problem in a shop that is serving over 1 million pages a day.
>
> Also in the area of divergence is the MySQL database interface modules,
> there are at least two and I believe four current versions.
>
> OK, but this is not python! Well, technically that is true but these are
> problems when one tries to use python in production!
>
> I suggest that you, Guido van Rossum, father and inventor of Python,
> "bless" some versions and thus get development behind single versions
> instead of diverging from each other. Thjis in much the same manner that
> Linus blesses a release of Linux.
>
> Oh well, this is just wishing upon a star. :-) At least I do get to use
> python on occasion, thanks.
>
> Dan Grassi
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