Splitting comp.lang.python

[Ken Seehof]

Splitting the newsgroup won't solve the basic problem: Too Many Messages.
We have to find a way to make python less popular, and soon.  Guido and
his dangerous CP4E plan must be stopped!

If we do not act now, our civilization will be destroyed.  If you think I'm
exagerrating, consider:

The current growth rate of this list is 148.5% per month*.

This means 11,500.00% per year.  In ten years, there will be
156,078,616,347 messages per microsecond on this site alone.

When you factor in a corresponding increase in number of members
who receive each message, after adjusting to current trends of
decreasing energy dissipation in fiber-optics technology, the total
energy usage of this newsgroup will be enough to turn this planet
into a ball of plasma.

* http://starship.python.net/crew/just/FindMailStats/
Jan 2000: 2678 messages
Feb 2000: 3977 messages

Cameron Laird wrote:

> In article <20000301105629.A4323 at nl.linux.org>,  <gerrit at nl.linux.org> wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >Quoting Fredrik Lundh <effbot at telia.com>,
> >> this month, comp.lang.python has seen nearly
> >> 50% more posts than any month before:
> >>
> >>     http://www.egroups.com/group/python-list/info.html
> >>     http://starship.python.net/crew/just/FindMailStats/
> >
> >4000 messages in 29 days is a lot. it's 138 messages a day. Previous
> >discussions on splitting c.l.py always ended up in jokes and just
> >disappeared; I want to resurrect an informal discussion on wheter
> >to split the newsgroup or not; an RFD should be posted, of course,
> >but IANAL: does anyone have time to create an RFD?
> >
> >    I propose to split c.l.py in a technical part and a non-technical part.
>                         .
>                         .
>                         .
> No, no one has time to create an RFD.
>
> I speak from experience.  Newsgroup creation requires
> more commitment, and even passion, than you'd expect.
> Only someone not discouraged by my discouraging words
> will have the perseverance required to endure the pro-
> cess.
>
> By the way, Gerritt, you and Fredrik and I seem to be
> running into each other a lot.  The most typical pat-
> tern is that you say something enthusiastic, and then
> effbot and I grumble at you.  That's what I (and he?)
> will do now:  I don't understand your proposal.  If
> it's to spawn a comp.lang.python.advocacy, well, I
> think that's worth discussing.  If the suggestion is
> that speculations about timbot's ontology and book re-
> views be labeled "non-technical" ... I just don't see
> that as viable.
>
> I've got loads of informed opinions about newsgroup
> dynamics.  If people truly want to pursue this, and
> none of the other old-timers jump in, I'll write up
> some of what I've seen.
> --
>
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