Splitting comp.lang.python

[Gerrit Holl]

Hello,

although I don't exspect any result from this discussion, I like to
discuss :)

<quote name="Mikael Olofsson" date="951922903" email="mikael at isy.liu.se">
> 
> On 01-Mar-00 Gerrit Holl wrote:
>  >  <quote name="Mikael Olofsson" date="951918286" email="mikael at isy.liu.se">
>  > > Perhaps the best thing would be to keep c.l.py as it is as the general
>  > > place for discussion, and then adding subgroups for specific interests.
>  >  
>  >  Perl uses:
>  >  
>  >   comp.lang.perl.announce
>  >   comp.lang.perl.misc
>  >   comp.lang.perl.tk
>  >   comp.lang.perl.modules
>  >   comp.lang.perl
>  >   comp.lang.perl.moderated
>  >  
>  >  Maybe it's a good idea too do something like that on c.l.py.
> 
> Not necessarily exactly those subgroups, but definitely something in 
> that direction, yes. Based on my first post in this thread, I come up 
> with the following
> 
>   c.l.py             General

In my experience, this could best me moved to c.l.py.misc. Otherwise
you get extremely many new people posting here on offtopic subjects.
I experienced this in the nl.comp.os.linux hierarchy; the atmosphere
is as bad as advocating wxPython in comp.lang.perl.misc ;)

>   c.l.py.gui         GUI

I don't know about this one. WxPython and PyQT have their own
mailinglists; should they join here? Or is the yearly GUI war
enough to fill this group <w>?

>   c.l.py.os          os/platform dependent issues

Agreed.

>   c.l.py.db          DataBase handling

Hmm, is this large enough to occupy a seperate newsgroup?

>   c.l.py.advocacy    Whitespace and such

Agreed.

> The CGI subgroup that I proposed earlier is perhaps not especially
> interresting. Many questions and discussions regarding CGI programming 
> tend to be originating from poor understanding of Python itself, and 
> its modules. I guess that is the way in to the Python world for many
> newbies. It sure was for me once.

Yes. CGI could be called dangerous - in a flamewar on c.l.pl.misc,
the Perl people defended their flamage with the fact that thousands
of script kiddies absolutly not wanted to read any Perl documented
but just wanted to create (awful) Perl scripts - we must not become
like the Perl people when many script-kiddies are going to use Python!

> I think that it is better to have general subgroup names such as gui, 
> os, db, and advocacy, rather than more explicit ones like tk, linux, 
> sql, and whitespace.

Agreed.

> Maybe platform is better than os... I leave that
> to the os/platform lawyers out there.

IANAL, but I think platform is better than os; Linux and FreeBSD should
make almost no difference, but they are certainly different OS'es.
</quote>

regards,
Gerrit.

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