Future of the Python Linux Distribution

Michael Hudson mwh21 at cam.ac.uk
Sun May 7 18:32:01 EDT 2000

Glyph Lefkowitz <glyph at twistedmatrix.com> writes:

> Vetle Roeim <vetler at news.ifi.uio.no> writes:
> >  - age. the other "P" language[0] has been around a little longer.. right?
> I hear this tossed around a lot.  How *much* longer?

I think perl was born in 1987 and Python in 1991.  Not sure about
either of those though.
[biggo snippo]
> Unfortunately, one of the best features of the python community is
> that it seems to have a sane group of people in it who know multiple
> languages and will choose appropriate ones for the appropriate task.
> We need more rabid, unabashed evangelists. :-)


[little-o snippo]
> > [1]: I like Lisp, but it *does* have a PR-problem.
> Lisp *IS* a PR-problem.  Lisp needs to change its name and shed some
> syntax before it's ever going to get 'mainstream' acceptance; the
> ideas in lisp are good, but too many cs students have been tortured
> with it ...

Lisp needs to *shed* some syntax?  What are you smoking?  Lisp has no
discernable syntax (and that's arguably one of it's better features).
Have you read "Lisp: Good News, Bad News, How to Win Big" by Richard
P. Gabriel?  It's well worth a read:


IMHO, Lisp has not entered the mainstream because people are too
close-minded to realise that something can be both different from what
they are used to and yet a good thing.  Not that modern lisp is
perfect, but it's flaws aren't insurmountable given, say, one tenth of
the money that's gone into Java.


  it's not that perl programmers are idiots, it's that the language
  rewards idiotic behavior in a  way that no other language or tool 
  has ever done                        -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp

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