Civility in the Marketplace of Ideas [was: Public Domain Python]
sholden at holdenweb.com
Thu Sep 21 23:52:42 CEST 2000
Pat McCann wrote:
> cbbrowne at news.hex.net (Christopher Browne) writes:
> > RMS doesn't always say particularly agreeable things; he's pretty
> > honest when he _doesn't agree_.
> > ...
> > But "uncivil" does not seem to be a civil comment.
> I guess the key word above is "pretty". Please read the following post
> for clear evidence of uncivility. If you cannot find it there, I probably
> won't be able to convince you of it, but I have no doubt that most
> people who read it carefully will understand it as a call for an action
> justified by a claim of an expected good end result to be brought about
> by the deception. It's uncivil in my book.
This is, to paraphrase your email address, bogus.
Or perhaps you'd prefer to think I haven't read it carefully enough.
Stallman is commenting on whether it's apropriate to apply the GPL to
IDLE interface descriptions. I don't believe he advocates any action,
and specifically states at the end "So the real question is, what
result to you want?". What worl are we occupying here?
> > I rather think that many of
> > those that consider him uncivil have more than a little bit of a chip
> > on their shoulders themselves.
> Quite right. It's similar to the chips put on their shoulders by Bill
> Gates or Bill Clinton. It's a form of jealousy in which people get
> emotionally upset when other people have great success
> by engaging in
> unfair (and uncivil) tactics while other people who've not used those
> tactics and may be pushing a better "product" are not nearly so
Why only in this way? Jealousy of this nature appears to be usually
uncritically applied to those achieving success by whatever means.
"Unfair"? Where did this come from?
> It's similar to the chip RMS has had on his shoulder for
> twenty years. It's not always a bad thing if it has a beneficial
> influence on other people's ideas. (But I'll admit there are better
> ways to do so than than responding to chip flippers on Internet forums.)
Well, you're right. So I'll stop. Thanks for the troll.
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