Zope & Python

[Leon Booyens]

Thank you for the great replies.

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Leon Booyens


Cameron Laird <claird at starbase.neosoft.com> wrote in message
news:DC70E3BB9DC80816.9B019A82D4401AC4.1D237CEB0E2FDD3F at lp.airnews.net...
> In article <8pt8g8015pt at news2.newsguy.com>,
> Alex Martelli <aleaxit at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"Leon Booyens" <leon_booyens at xsinet.co.za> wrote in message
> >news:39c208eb$0$231 at hades.is.co.za...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I asked one of our specialists if we should not consider using Zope
> >instead
> >> of tomcat and Python instead of Java.
> >>
> >> His reply was as follows :
> >>
> >> Do you agree with all these comments ?
> >
> >Of course not, or else we would hardly be following this group:-).  But
> >the first key issue is the usual one: whether compile-time-enforced
> >static typing is mandatory (or even particularly advisable) to develop
> >big apps (the current buzzword for which is "enterprise") or not.
> .
> [great, great commentary
> on typing challenges and
> opportunities]
> .
> .
> 'Anyone have a succinct description of the following?
> A.  How do you choose between Perl, Python, Rexx, Tcl, ...?
>     1.  Ask a trusted friend
>     2.  Decide based on some subjective affinity
> you can detect in the first hour of exer-
> cising each
>     3.  Learn each so thoroughly that you can
> judge for yourself whether the specific
> contingent advantages of, say, CPAN, Tcl's
> event-based I/O, Lua's metaprogrammability,
> Python's syntax for built-ins, Tcl's traces,
> Python's manifold implementations, Perl's
> prospective support for currying, ...
> is the best fit for your situation.
> B.  How do you decide about type systems?
>     1.  Ask a trusted friend
>     2.  Say, "well, are there compile-time checks?"
>     3.  Understand the issues with sufficient
> depth to be able to put Bob Martin, Erlang,
> Ada, OCaML, Luca Cardelli, Haskell, Smalltalk,
> Clean, ... in their proper places, and make a
> specific judgment between them conditioned
> on your own situation.
>
> I'm rather frustrated that I haven't yet been able even to
> summarize comprehensibly for civilians how great is the invest-
> ment alternative 3. requires.
>
> I salute Alex's analysis, and recommend its re-reading.
>
> Mr. Booyens, do you realize the return address above bounces?
> --
>
> Cameron Laird <claird at NeoSoft.com>
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