[ANN] SkunkWeb 3.0 Released!

[Markus Schaber]

Hi,

John Goerzen <jgoerzen at complete.org> schrub:

>>> DTML bites. It hits on making it easy to do easy things, but is too
>>> constraining for the expert because you don't have the full
>>> flexibility of Python in the tags.
>> 
>>    DTML is presentation language. Don't mix logic and presentation.
>>    If you
>> need Python - just use Python, not DTML.
> 
> The problem, though, is that it's not all that easy to do HTML in
> Python, especially for non-programmers.  One neat approach is Enhydra,
> a Java system, which uses id attributes in HTML tags and then lets the
> Java code modify those tags.  Completely separates presentation from
> implementation.  OTOH because it is Java, it apparently obeys the
> unwritten rule that it must be a beheamoth with a large and complex
> API that requires 10x more code to use than it should.... sigh....

I use DTML for the page, and python for the logic. At the top of my 
page, I have the following or something alike:

<dtml-let seite=Calculate>
<dtml-with seite>

Calculate is a python procedure that calculates everything that needs 
logic (e. G. a list containing all the nav-bar entries) and returns it 
in a result object. Then dtml-var and dtml-in applied on the object- 
defined namespace is all you need :-)

> I also dislike not storing files in the regular, filsystem way.

That's the biggest negative point, and it makes it more difficult to 
create backups.
 
> OTOH, Zope's inheritance model is quite nice.

Yes, the most classes are easy to use as mix-in. But the documentation 
is more than a mess, although its getting better.

markus
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