Mailman archiver (inadvisable) translates Latin 1 characters

Bernhard Reiter bernhard at intevation.de
Fri Aug 10 06:25:17 EDT 2001


In article <kubslpc4yl.fsf at lasipalatsi.fi>,
	Erno Kuusela <erno-news at erno.iki.fi> writes:
> In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0108092013100.1780-100000 at cens.ioc.ee>,
> Pearu Peterson <pearu at cens.ioc.ee> writes:

>| This message was originally sent to mailman users group but due to the
>| delay there I'll try this newsgroup if someone could help me.

>| ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>| Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:46:28 +0200 (EET)
>| From: Pearu Peterson <pearu at cens.ioc.ee>
>| To: mailman-users at python.org
>| Subject: Latin 1 characters

>| I have noticed that latin 1 (or rather non US ascii) characters are mapped
>| to 3-strings starting with = character when messages are shown in the
>| Mailman archive. For example,
> 
>| õ -> =F5
>| Õ -> =D5

> actually it is not mailman that does this, it is the sender. some mail
> user agents escape all non-ascii characters this way, even though
> practically all non-8-bit-clean mail software has disappeared from the
> face of the earth by now.

This is correct.

> the archive part of mailman does not know how to decode this
> encoding (it is called "quoted-printable", also often called
> "quoted-unreadable" :) ).

The name of the part is pipermail. A. Kuchling started it, 
but stopped development when he noticed hypermail and mhonarc.
	http://www.amk.ca/python/unmaintained/pipermail.html
It was incorporated into mailman later.

> i guess mailman will have to be taught how to cope with this.  you
> could also use some other web archiving software. i have good
> experience with mhonarc. (it is nicer in some other respects too.)

I like hypermail better.
Note that Mailman has explicit possibilities to use external
archiving programs.  The  ffii.org/archive/mails/
runs mailman with hypermail and my haof extensions.

	Bernhard
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