Lee> What is this 'help'? Lee> I can do: Lee> print dir.__doc__ Lee> but for Lee> help('dir') Lee> I get: Lee> NameError ... Try from pydoc import help help(pydoc) I have this in my PYTHONSTARTUP file. Pydoc is pretty damn cool. -- Skip Montanaro (skip at pobox.com) http://www.mojam.com/ http://www.musi-cal.com/