RESULT: comp.soft-sys.wxwindows passes 164:13

Dave Cornejo dave at
Fri Feb 23 02:31:14 EST 2001

       unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.wxwindows passes 164:13

There were 164 YES votes and 13 NO votes, for a total of 177 valid
votes.  There were 3 abstentions and 3 invalid ballots.

For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes.  There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly

Newsgroups line:
comp.soft-sys.wxwindows	Discussions related to wxWindows framework.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 12 Feb 2001.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Vadim Zeitlin <vadim at>
Votetaker: Dave Cornejo <dave at>

RATIONALE: comp.soft-sys.wxwindows

This group should host the discussions about wxWindows (portable,
free framework for writing GUI and console applications in C++,
Python and Perl for a variety of platforms). wxWindows currently
has a number of very busy mailing lists, creating a newsgroup
should help people to participate in discussions about it without
being overwhelmed by the number of messages.

CHARTER: comp.soft-sys.wxwindows

The comp.soft-sys.wxwindows newsgroup should be used for any
discussions related to wxWindows framework without limitation to any
language (although only C++, Python and Perl are currently supported)
or platform (porting to a currently unsupported platform may be
discussed here).

Examples of correct postings include (but are not limited to) the
following subjects:

- questions related to using wxWindows
- discussion of current or future wxWindows developments
- bug reports and feature requests

Examples of unwelcome postings:

- questions about C or C++ language except when directly related to
  support for C++ feature or lack of thereof in wxWindows (e.g.
  "Should destructor of the base class be virtual?" is inappropriate
  while "How can I use exceptions with wxWindows?" is not).
- platform-specific programming questions unrelated to wxWindows
  (specifically questions about Win32 API are unwelcome)
- questions about using wxWindows answered in the FAQ
- long (more than a few lines) patches - they should be submitted
  instead to the patch manager at the project Web site

The newsgroup is not moderated. Posting of binaries and
advertisement is not allowed. As an exception, advertisement
is allowed for the announcement of products directly related to
wxWindows (either written for wxWindows or using wxWindows).



In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV
and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to these mailing lists:

Mailing list name: wxwindows-devel
Submission address: wxwindows-devel at
Request address (optional):

Mailing list name: wxwindows-users
Submission address: wxwindows-users at
Request address (optional):

Mailing list name: wxpython-users
Submission address: wxpython-users at
Request address (optional):

comp.soft-sys.wxwindows Final Voter list

Voted YES
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------                                                Peter Scully                                      Geoff Eldridge                                              Toivo Pedaste                                                 Chris Fama                                                  Philippe Raxhon                                    Humphrey Clerx                                         Thomas Haeberli                                                    Robin Dunn                                               Teague Sheridan                                     Achim Neumann                                             Alain CULOS                                              Michael Teo                                                        P Vlad                                                     Angel Popov
movits#BLOOMBERG.COM                                            Mordechai Ovits                          Biswapesh Chattopadhyay                                                 Greg Whitehead                                    Michael Kennedy                                 Onorio Catenacci                                              Dan L. Pierson                                  Francis Irving                                              Richie Hindle                                                        Carl Godkin                                                         John Skiff   =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Erland =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vest=F8?=                                                  Peter Hansen                                             J.F.Nelson                                        George Tasker                                           Emile van Sebille                                                   David Bolen                                          Duane Kaufman                     Klaus - Guenter Leiss                                                    Don O'Donnell                                              David Ramalho                                                      Gregg=20                                                   Parzival Herzog                                       Steve Frampton                                               Miki Tebeka                                     Lionel Allorge                                                         z3p                                                         Jeff Bail                                               Tom Malcolmson                                               Perry Miller                                             Francisco Fajuto                                     Geoffrey Talvola                                        Juergen Christoffel                                                 Julian Smart                                            Lars Helgeland                                                Derry Bryson                                                      Ryan Gavin                                                Dima Angert                                        Kerry B. Rogers                                            Chris Stamper                                          Alex Martelli                                          Mike C. Fletcher                                               Kent Paul Dolan                                 Allen Van Sickel                                             Carlo Sans                                       Loreene Dixon                                       Marvin Aviles                                     Richard Clark                                                   Carl A. Paul                                               Bill Wilkinson                                           Clark S. Cox, III                                 Jeff Duska (                                                     Pavel Jurus                                                 Vaclav Slavik                                                   Axel Schlueter                                              Gerhard Haering                                        Gerhard Gruber                                   Armin K=F6nigsdorfer</FONT>                                             Kai Benndorf                                          Wolfgang Strobl                                                Amanjit Gill                                               Stephan Tolksdorf                                                        Robert Gurk                                              Carsten Block                                 Markus Fieber</FONT></DIV>                                              Oliver Schaefer                                                Thomas Krebs                                                 Wolfgang Keller                                      Anders Larsen                                            Christof Pastors                                                Sven Peters                                            Henning Sauer                                  Manni Heumann                          Wolfram Gloger                                              Horst Bachmann                                            Ruediger Maehl                                            Niels Olof Bouvin
dpw#CS.Arizona.EDU                                                 Don Waugaman
fungus#OCF.Berkeley.EDU                                               Hank Fung
bkropf#ONLINE.EMICH.EDU                                             Brian Kropf                                             Kevin Cole                              Andrew Sterian                                               William Ryu                                                            John                                             Jeremy Bowman
amcmicha#Princeton.EDU                                         Andrew McMichael                                  Dominic Barraclough                                          Matthew W. Roberts                                                      E Stabler                           Jonathan M. Gilligan                                           J Rufinus                                      christopher lee                                              Paul Magwene                                       Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia                                                        I.R.Maturana                                         Jose L. Pedraza
ts#UWasa.Fi                                                          Timo Salmi                                    Vadim Zeitlin                                          Anton Frolov                                      Gilles Depeyrot                                 Leonard Williams                                            Greg Newton                                                Dermot Frost                                           Maurizio Codogno                                                     Mario Tola                                                        Lello Mele                                      Nicola Musatti                                              Mattia Barbon                                          Roland Schlenker                                          Greg Landrum                                          Earthlink                                                  Randy Kramer                                                  Paul C. Kunysch                                           Alexis Manning                                              Christopher Barker                                              Derek M. A. Lee-Wo                                          Arthur  Goldhammer                                                   Stefan Franke                                                  Neal Cappel                                                David Fox                                             UVV                                             Les Schaffer                                                 Randall F. Kern                                               Rich Skrenta                                                   Hakki Dogusan                                                 Rhet Turnbull                               Reed Hedges <>                                                     Robert Amesz                                          Remco Gerlich                                              J.Jansen                                               Albert Hofkamp                     Pieter van der Meulen                          A.H. van den Boogaard                                            Stuart Brodie Faulds                                                 Brett g Porter                                                Martin Bickel                                          Timothy Hochberg                                           Richard Palmer                                    Pawel Kedzierski                                                     Oleg Orlov                                        Alexander V. Voinov                                              Oleg Broytmann                                           Federico Hernandez                                         Jonas Rydberg                                              Zdravko Bas                                          Paul Gammans                                            Diana Galletly                                              Patrick Gosling                                                 chris elliott                                   John David Galt

Voted NO
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------                                                   Michael Klaas                                Jeremy McMillan</FONT></HTML>                                                     Kim DeVaughn                                                   Dwight Brown                                                    John Eckart                                                        Yeoh Yiu                                         Christian Weisgerber
meg#Steam.Stanford.EDU                                               meg worley                                               Richard H Miller                                          Devin L. Ganger                                       Matthew Montchalin                                           Chris Ebenezer                                              Jeritt Mulder

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------                                                  Michal Rosa                                                        BarkerJr                                                             Aahz

Invalid ballots
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------                                         Stephane Junique
    ! Invalid email address                                              darren smith
    ! Invalid email address                                                         Meow Meow
    ! No vote statement in message

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