How do you develop in Python?

[Bufu]

Have you tried Komodo?

- Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Perkins" <nperkins7 at home.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
To: <python-list at python.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: How do you develop in Python?


> I use NT, and I have yet to find a free IDE that I am really happy with.
>
> This is a serious shortcoming of Python.  I know, the language itself is
not
> resposible for giving me a wonderful free IDE, but in the mind of a Python
> user, the IDE is part and parcel of the language, and integral to the
> *experience of Python.  Python, the laguage is wonderful, but weak IDEs
make
> it look bad.  I have used PythonWin, IDLE, Boa Constructor, and SciTe.
>
> With all apologies to those who developed these FREE IDE's... (it is not
> fair to complain about free software, and that is not my intention here --
I
> am sure that I could not do any better)..  I simply, (and selfishly), wish
> that I could use Python to the full potential of the language itself,
> without being hindered by an IDE that freezes up, leaves behind runaway
> processes, or crashes.
>
> IDLE freezes up frequently.
> PythonWin freezes a bit less, and seems unable to kill a runaway program.
> Boa Constructor is more stable than these two, and allows you to kill a
> runaway program without killing the editor.  However, it won't take you to
> the line that caused an error, which is very irritating. (broken feature)
> SciTe seems interesting, but I haven't figured out how to configure it,
yet,
> and util I do, it's useless.  (me being lazy, but still...)
>
> I want an IDE to provide at least the following:
> 1. Each run takes place in a fresh, clean environment.
> 2. The IDE stays responsive while a program is run.
> 3. The IDE can kill a running program.
>
> Another thing I would like, but that may have, i dunno, ..implications..?
> 1. The IDE should handle the sys.path so that Python does not fail to find
a
> file that I currently have open, or is in the same directory.
>
>
> Is it not possible to start a 'fresh' interpreter for each run?  Or is
that
> not actually desirable for some reason?  Would that make it impossible to
> kill it or get tracebacks, etc?  Do we need a Python IDE that does not run
> itself in Python?
> ( i guess SciTE doesn't....maybe I'll give that another go..)
>
> BTW, which free IDEs are currently being maintained and improved?
> How much work is being done, and how many people are doing it?
> ( keep up the good work!, if this means you!)
>
> p.s. i know, i know, emacs, vim, etc etc....but I have become a bit of a
> windows softie, and have an aversion to such things.  I am going to use
> emacs in my next life, and learn lisp as my first language.....
>
>
>
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