PEP 276 Simple Iterator for ints (fwd)
eppstein at ics.uci.edu
Wed Nov 28 06:59:42 CET 2001
In article <3C04768A.CFDC1CE8 at engcorp.com>,
Peter Hansen <peter at engcorp.com> wrote:
> > > -1 for being ambiguous to newbies.
> > The same could be said for 'for i in range(5)', since 'i in range(5)' is an
> > expression that is roughly equivalent to '0 <= i < 5'.
> But range() can be looked up. You can type range(5) at the interactive
> prompt (where a newbie would live) and see [0, 1, 2, 3, 4] and infer
> immediately that you are stepping through the items one at a time.
> Typing 0 <= i < 5 at the prompt gives you either 0 or 1, or NameError:
> name 'i' is not defined. Not helpful for a newbie.
How would the newbie know to type "range(5)" instead of "i in range(5)"?
> (Note: I'm not exactly interested in dumbing a language down to the
> point where anyone can understand it without learning something from a
> tutorial or the reference.
When you phrase it that way, I'm not either -- what does it mean to dumb
down a language? -- but I would be interested in changes that allow
non-Python-literate programmers to understand my code without having to
dig through a manual.
David Eppstein UC Irvine Dept. of Information & Computer Science
eppstein at ics.uci.edu http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/
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