Near Final PEP 247 - API for Cryptographic Hash Functions

Andrew Kuchling akuchlin at
Tue Sep 25 16:30:45 CEST 2001

"Tim Peters" < at> writes:
> It's unclear whether all modules conforming to this spec must support both
> flavors of "new".  The syntax of the second flavor of new() is also unclear;
> perhaps
>     new(key[, string])
> was intended?  I expect I'd like it better if the string argument always
> came first, and that hash methods requiring a key require a keyword "key="
> argument.

That seemed backwards to me.  With a keyed hash, the key is required
and a string is optional, so the key should therefore come first.
It's irritating that this can cause potential confusion if you
switched from an unkeyed to a keyed hash -- an initial string can be
interpreted as the key -- but it would be more irritating to have the
first parameter not be the only required one.

A recent suggestion from Rich Salz is to be even more minimal and
simply drop the string argument to the constructor; that's not such a
bad idea, since it ensures TOOWTDI.  (Obviously I wouldn't rip out the
initial string argument for the MD5 and SHA modules included with


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