Have you tried to call manage_main instead of manage? This is normally the way if you try to look up Zope without a frame-capable browser. HTH, __Janko -- Institut fuer Meereskunde phone: 49-431-597 3989 Dept. Theoretical Oceanography fax : 49-431-565876 Duesternbrooker Weg 20 email: jhauser at ifm.uni-kiel.de 24105 Kiel, Germany