Gratitude due to Red Hat? More work for the PBF?

Kow Kuroda kkuroda at
Wed Aug 21 08:40:42 CEST 2002

There is a difference between Red Hat 7.2 and 7.3 in their treatment
of Python. In 7.2, python2 was optional. In 7.3, it is kind of default. And
this brought me into a big mess of dependency problems, because python2
is part of the rpm system rather than an optional package. Actually, it was 
painfully complicated to upgrade the shipped 2.1 (or 2.2) version to Python 
2.2.1 with from .src.rpm with --rebuild option. Moreover, idle2 on RHL 7.3 
wasn't properly installed, if I remember corrently. (I'm back in 7.2 now 
for a few other safety reasons ... Under certain circumstances, "Upgrade an 
existing system" procedure eliminates all the accounts in the previous 
system ...)


On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, at 08:49 , Donn Cave wrote:

> Quoth grante at (Grant Edwards):
> | In article <Iyn89.11545$aC5.4453 at>, Steve 
> Holden wrote:
> |> I'm a little hesitant to say this, but today (while, of all
> |> things, putting a sales proposal together) I realised that my
> |> attitude to the "Red Hat comes with 1.5.2" question has now
> |> altered. When considering a hosting environment I am happy to
> |> *exclude* any company who can only offer 1.5.2,
> |
> | I'm not sure what this has to do with RH.  RedHat has offered
> | Python 2.1 for quite a while now.  It's not what you get if you
> | just run the command "python", but it's available as "python2".
> Right - Redhat made their mistake not when they started shipping
> Python, but when they started using it themselves without taking
> language change into account.
> It's trivial to make a port of Python 2.1 available, whether it
> comes in the OS install or not (NetBSD doesn't install with
> Python 2.1, but that's how it works, you install the basic OS
> and get what else you need from ports.)  Evidently the hard
> part is to do this while actually writing and maintaining
> Python code.  The Python user's worst enemy is another Python
> user.
> 	Donn Cave, donn at
> --

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