Could Python supplant Java?

Powell, Thomas Thomas.Powell at
Thu Aug 22 15:11:33 CEST 2002

What is so developer-hostile about Windows?

Windows is like an orchestra that selects its members by lottery from a
group of audience members who can play "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" on an
instrument, while the professional musicians get blamed in the bad
newspaper reviews.

Thomas Powell
Field Systems Development, Pizza Hut SUS
Yum! Brands, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: goose [mailto:spammenotguse at] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 5:53 PM
To: python-list at
Subject: Re: Could Python supplant Java?

Dan Johnson wrote:
> Serious question:
> What is so developer-hostile about Windows?

Serious Answer(tm):
1. No development tools come installed with it. Without
even a single compiler, how does a "developer" develop ?
The result is usually to download/purchase a development

2. No proper scripting environment to do nightly
build & test cycles (cron'd to run at midnight).
(IDE's are nice if you're gonna sit at your desk and click
on the buttons, but on a 20 person project, I want to be
able to get everyone to save their work to a server, and
have *everything* recompiled from scratch, so that if
anyone made a change that broke someone else component, we'd find out
the next morning, not six weeks later when we are trying to integrate
our code together). The lack of a system provided make utility is

3. The inability to easily let everyone use *the* *same* *machine* to
compile, all at the same time (via an ssh shell, or an xterm if the
developer likes GUI IDE's). This way it is possible to make sure that no
developer is using a compiler which could possibly be patched to a
different version than the others (autoupdate?).

4. The lack of a single decent editor ... 'nuff said.

Basicly, after you jump the flaming hoops to install your OS, it is
frustrating to sit in front of it without being able to write a single
line of code because the OS assumes that the person using it is not a
developer. No other system that I've installed has this "feature" ...
the first thing I do after an installation is run 'cc -v' ... and
everthing from linux to sco to solaris to iris allows me to start
writing code.

Windows lets me play solitaire :-(

> Are you sure it isn't really Microsoft you find.. hostile? :D

no, I can stand solitaire for a few minutes while my development tools
load :-)

ruse at webmail dot co dot za


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