Could Python supplant Java?

GreyCloud cumulus at mist.com
Fri Aug 23 06:42:23 CEST 2002


"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> In alt.destroy.microsoft, I heard GreyCloud say:
> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >>
> >> In alt.destroy.microsoft, I heard GreyCloud say:
> >> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In alt.destroy.microsoft, I heard asj say:
> >> >> >ROTFLOL.
> >> >> >You have GOT to do better than that <g>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >java on the desktop was never that much of a priority for sun beyond the
> >> >> >initial hype (unfortunately)...they're a server hardware company, and
> >> >> >it's on that end that java is flourishing.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >today, java is also swamping the small device arena, its original target
> >> >> >environment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >lurker's guide to j2me:
> >> >> >http://www.blueboard.com/j2me/
> >> >> >http://www.blueboard.com/j2me/why.htm
> >> >> >
> >> >> >microsoft monopoly? i suggest posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Don't bother.  They have a serious denial-of-reality problem when it comes to
> >> >> the Microsoft monopoly.  As far as they are concerned, there is no 'monopoly',
> >> >> it's just that everybody is stupid.
> >> >
> >> >That's the problem going on over there now.  A lot of them
> >> >are now denying the monopoly.  A never ending comedy with
> >> >sewer_clown leading the pack.
> >>
> >> I was referring to the Linux advocates, not the wintrolls. ;-/
> >
> >I still see the same problems.
> 
> And you always will, old friend.
> 
> >Yes I know, the advocates of
> >linux don't understand.  I'm still grappling with the
> >monopoly arguments.  I'm not good at the legal stuff so I
> >just watch.
> 
> It is what is called a dialectic.  Two sides of the same coin, arguing over
> how to identify the edge.
> 
> Just for kicks, here's my take on the 'monopoly arguments': nobody is stupid,
> but everyone is clueless.  And they have a right to be; a market is made up of
> clueless consumers and clueless producers, both hoping to find what they want.
> The problem with Microsoft's domination is not clueless consumers; if it were,
> the consumers wouldn't have such well-formed (even if ludicrous) ideas about
> What Microsoft Is Doing Wrong.  And it can't be clueless producers, since
> Microsoft knows very well that it is protecting monopoly power; the ability to
> make things incompatible throughout the PC industry with anyone who doesn't
> support their monopoly power.
> 
> There is no reason to 'grapple' with any 'monopoly arguments'; those that
> defend it are ignorant (which is bad), those that support it are clueless
> (which is their right), and those that don't believe in it are naive (which is
> stupid).  Those that oppose it are as clueless as those who support it,  and
> they are equally within their rights.  But slightly more stupid; it is
> fiscally detrimental to oppose or attempt to compete with a monopoly, and that
> is why monopolies (or, rather, monopolizing) is illegal.
> 
> You are a smart man, so you just watch.  We are waiting, whether we know it or
> not, for the government to prove Adam Smith wrong, in a way.

That's the best I've read yet Max.  To the point and covered
concisely.



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