Could Python supplant Java?
rballard at open4success.com
Thu Aug 22 02:54:43 CEST 2002
> Not offering any personal opinion on this conjecture, but a lot of
> people are saying that java has failed to become a widely accepted
> cross platform language for applications.
Java is still quite popular, and has established a pretty
substantial market share. Microsoft is fighting Java and trying to
Undermine Java 2 by bundling an older version of Microsoft's
insecure JVM, but getting JRE is very easy, and even JDK is pretty
easy to get if you want it. And since JDK 1.3 have some execellent
IDEs available, on both Linux and Windows, it's pretty easy to
implement applications that work on Both Linux and Windows.
> These leaves the world defenseless against the Microsoft Borg.
PLEASE!!! - Microsoft has no really good general purpose scripting
languages, and no low-cost development languages. PERL, PYTHON,
JAVA, and TCL can all be downloaded for free. Microsoft obviously
doesn't pay $4 billion/year to promote these Open Source based
languages which can create products and projects that can run on
both Linux and Windows.
Of COURSE Microsoft is going to spend their $Billions promoting C#
and Visual Basic, which run Exclusively on Windows and do not
support comprehensive implementations on Linux.
Of course, if you want some heavy-duty portability, you have
cygwin, which give you the ability to run Linux programs on
Windows, including Windows NT, 2000, and XP. Cygwin isn't as
secure, stable, and fast as Linux (after all you are ultimately
dependent on Windows infrastructure), but it's a nice way to make
> But could Python do the trick? The python interpreter is smaller
> than the JRE, and it's certainly a nicely structured language,
> with nearly all the coding features of Java.
Unfortunately, Python, PERL, TCL/TK, Ruby, and the other fine
languages all have to be loaded AFTER the machines are shipped.
Obviously, it would be nice if OEMs could install PERL, Java 2,
Python, and others as part of their OEM installation, when it can
be put on the master disk. It would cost nothing, or extremely
little, and would provide new capabilities not currently available
to Windows. It would also make hundreds of applications available
Unfortunately, Microsoft has insisted on complete control of the
preinstalled suite and is doing everything they possibly can to
maintain that control despite the unanimous ruling of the Appeals
court full panel that such exclusion of competitors is explicitly
Sun is likely to be the strongest candidate to be prepared to fight
this or have Microsoft cited for contempt. Sun could offer Java
JRE and/or JDK, Star Office, and other applications which could be
installed by OEMs for prices that are very competitive with
Microsoft's office, JDK, and IE/VBScript.
Red Hat could also press for the inclusion of Cygwin, in this case
possibly even at no cost to OEMs. Corporate customers could also
begin using Cygwin - including Python, Perl, and TCL/TK.
These are "first steps" - steps that would create an application
base that could lead to a marketplace in which both Windows and
Linux compete in an open and equally accessible market.
For this reason, Microsoft will do everything it can to fight this
technology, since it cannot be controlled. Microsoft has even
tried to force Corporations to agree to NOT use Open Source
technology such as Python on their Windows desktops. The DOJ has
ignored this, the Courts have ignored this, and Microsoft has tried
to divert attention by releasing a support pack that allows users
to choose which web browser they want to use.
As long as Microsoft controls access to the OEM distribution
channel, and has the ability to control what OS, Applications, and
systems can be installed on PCs, they will do everything in their
power to "Lock out" any technology which can be supported by both
Linux and Windows.
> netvegetable at excite.com
Enterprise/B2B IT Architect
Visionary for the Linux community
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