Autocoding evolves from........
andy47 at halfcooked.com
Thu Feb 7 17:25:03 EST 2002
huaiyu at gauss.almadan.ibm.com (Huaiyu Zhu) wrote in
news:slrna65qur.hgk.huaiyu at gauss.almadan.ibm.com:
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2002 09:48:10 -0800, Jeff Shannon <jeff at ccvcorp.com>
>>The problem you're running into, is that you've failed to convince anyone
>>*you* understand the real problems involved, enough to be able to solve
>>don't need to convince us of the benefits of autocoding; you need to
>>of *your* competence. So far, you're failing miserably.
> He has several other major problems:
> 1. He seems to be unable to differentiate and respond well to negative
> comments. He treats them all equally, and replies to the more
> ones with more enthusiasm. Can he tell the difference between the
> following comments? "I don't understand." "I's already done." "It
> can't be done." "Yeah, that'll be good, but I don't think you've got
> right approach to do it." Sometimes he can't even see a humor.
> 2. He seems to claim that he has already abstracted all of computing into
> his nine commands, yet he also claims that this vision of his is
> impossible to be put into words, examples or mathematics. That's kind
> contradictary since the art of programming, or much of science itself,
> to figure out exactly how things behave, and how to make things work
> desired. It is the art of collecting and summarizing details, to
> formulize and abstract them, to articulate and communicate them.
> 3. He misunderstood the mechanism of Open Source projects. These
> exist because it is more efficient to do things that way. A leader
> a leader must have the ability to make things more efficient for
> He claims he knows the road ahead, but don't have the time to travel
> there. So let's ask some hyperthetical questions. Suppose there are
> twenty programmers willing to join his project. Now he could achieve
> a year or two what he would have done by himself in twenty years.
> are the tasks these programmers would be handling? What are the most
> urgent theoretical problems to be solved? What would be the codes he
> wants them to write in the first month? Will he handle the final
> and approval of code, and if so, what functionality and other criteria
> he'll use to judge them? He seems to think that one man with a vision
> plus a million monkeys jumping on keyboards would solve real problems.
> So with these problems in the way, it is not of much use communicating on
> this topic. The first and second problems also imply that there's not
> chance that any of these problems can be solved soon.
> (Rue, if you are listening here, there's no need to respond. We are not
> sympathetic people here. Programmers behave like Nazies here.)
And thus Godwin's law is proven once more and this discussion can draw to a
I thank you,
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