Autocoding >Re: "Introduction to Ethics",

Timothy Rue threeseas at
Fri Jan 25 17:31:48 CET 2002

On 24-Jan-02 22:27:38 Christopher Browne <cbbrowne at> wrote:
>"Timothy Rue" <threeseas at> writes:
>> On 23-Jan-02 17:51:51 ---name removed until ok'd for newgroups -- wrote:
>> >"Timothy Rue" <threeseas at> writes:

>> >> I know enough to know that I know more than I need to know, to
>> >> know the project I presented is a valid one.

>> >Autocoding is a nice dream, but it's a little like world peace.
>> >It's not just a matter of saying "here's a great idea, do this".

>> World peace is a lot closer than many realize and the more that do
>> realize, the closer it gets.

>[Vast array of wishful thinking omitted.]

>The way that free software projects succeed is when people release
>actual software that _works_.  It doesn't forcibly have to work
>_well_; it doesn't have to be as fully featured as it might, someday,

>In contrast, it is blatantly obvious that projects that merely involve
>people waving their hands, "visualizing whirled peas," never amount to

>Take a quick look at <>

>There are _vast numbers_ of projects that have been "started" where
>someone got wishful and decided to start "designing something" in the
>hopes that other people would come along and actually do the work of
>making it useful.

>There are probably 10,000 such projects that will be forever ignored,
>in spite of the fact that each involves high aspirations for success.

>If you can't release a preliminary _functional_ "autocoder," then I
>don't think it's going far to say that there's no reason why _anybody_
>should feel compelled to listen to you.

>And the best you can expect, without some _working code_, is for
>people to say "that's nice" and go on to the _real_ things they have
>to do.

>People may be polite, in the beginning; if you are persistent in
>wasting their time on your pipe dream, they will get less polite as
>they tell you to go away.

I'm fully aware of sourceforge and what you have said about project
success there. But what you probably don't know is that it's probably a
good indication of what it's like in the software industry as a whole.
Actually it may be better than the industry whole.

Power Panel - "What's Wrong with Software Development"

** In The U.S. Only **</H4>

$81 Billion = 31% of software development gets cancelled before complete

$59 Billion = 53% of software development has cost over-runs of 189%

16% success - project success and failure ratio

61% customer requested features and functions make it in

Maintenance and repair is where most of the U.S. dollars are going,
instead of new, better, easier to use software.

My question to you is: Are you attacking me with the above arguements?

I have no control over what you want to see or don't want to see.

I gave links, even in my original post.

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