Newbie: finding the key/index of the min/max element

[holger krekel]

On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 09:07:02AM +0000, Alex Martelli wrote:
> Laura Creighton wrote:
>         ...
> > All of this was personal.  You can't hide behind 'other men' or 'other
> > Americans'.  Francois Pinard, Cliff Wells, Steve Holden, Tim Delaney,
> > I, and I forget who else who helped are not going to sit around idlely
> > while you turn c.l.p into a 'sarcasm friendly' place.  We will fight
> > you over this.  This is an extremely interesting and to my mind
> > important social experiement, and you aren't going to find many people
> > who will support you in your efforts to turn this place into just
> > another newsgroup.
> 
> Actually, _I_ wouldn't mind it if there was a way to discourage people
> from starting Yet Another Round of language-change proposals or whines
> and complaints against some aspect of the language they have not
> carefully considered.  "I don't understand why 'split' should be a
> method of the joiner rather than of the sequence" is one thing, and,
> even though often explored in the past, deserves courteous response if
> one has the time and patience to repeat it (or pointing to a FAQ, etc).

Do you know about Linus Torvalds saying, that 95% of the
programmers consider themselves to be excellent and the rest
at least deems theirselves above average?

So i guess it's a learning process. iff people 
*keep coming back* trying to force their (often narrow)
views on others *then* i would look for ways of discouragement.

During my time on c.l.py i have see a lot of people
getting adapted and then *enjoying* the fact that many
knowledgable people ('a meeting of the minds') really
care for their problems and explain things. 
Humbleness is a virtue which you can learn here on this 
list because there are so many great, nice and knowledgable
people. 

Whereas the number of people *insisting* on narrow views
is really small. I can't even remember one.

But you certainly have longer-ranged statistics than me.
I can understand perfectly well that certain statements about ternary
operators or putting join on sequence-types and whatnot
get on your nerves. But i guess if you don't reply to fast
you will find that other people (who may have learned it from you!)
take care.

regards,
    
    holger