I noticed the URL http://starship.python.net/~da/commontasks/ gives a 404 ERROR. That page is quite usefull. It's still in Google's Cache BTW, http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=site:starship%2Epython%2Enet+commontasks I something wrong with the starship, or is the page removed? PieterB -- http://zwiki.org/PieterB