Python should try to displace Java

John J. Lee jjl at
Tue Aug 12 14:29:11 CEST 2003

Doug Tolton <dtolton at> writes:

> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:43:08 -0700, "Brandon J. Van Every"
> <vanevery at> wrote:
> >- in 5 years, nobody will be doing significant amounts of new application
> >development in C++.  The writing is on the wall: garbage collection is
> >essential.  Any C++ code will be support and legacy libraries.
> That's a ridiculous blanket statement.  People will be doing C++
> development for a long time beyond that.  There are people still

You (like me) misread what he wrote, I suspect.  *Application*
development, not development in general.  I see no reason to disagree
that that would be sane (doesn't mean it's going to happen in five
years, of course).

> than C# does.  MS really shot themselves in the foot when they went to
> dotnet, essentially the adopted the Java platform 8 years after Java.
> Now they are playing catchup with an inferior product.  I doubt
> they'll ever catch up to Java overall.

Remains to be seen.

> >- Ergo, Java is the weakling of the litter for Python to attack.
> No factual basis for this statement.  Java and Python are really
> entirely different things.  Python is meant as a scripting language,
> Java is a Systems programming language.  It is meant as an alternative
> to C++, Python isn't.

Well, that's certainly frequently debated.


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