Python should try to displace Java

John Roth newsgroups at
Sun Aug 17 13:59:17 CEST 2003

"Roy Smith" <roy at> wrote in message
news:roy-E4E108.20220916082003 at
> "John Roth" <newsgroups at> wrote:
> > You missed Ruby and TCL. Granted, TCL is probably only being held up
> > by TK and Expect, though.
> Don't kid yourself.  I work on a commercial application which includes
> almost 20,000 lines of TCL, and not a single line of it is Tk or Expect.
> As an embedded scripting language, it fills a very nice niche.
> This particular collection of TCL code is the 3rd generation of
> scripting code for this application.  The first generation was a huge
> shell script, which was quickly outgrown.  The second generation was a
> home-brew language which was a complete failure.  The third generation
> was embedding TCL, which was a roaring success.
> I've been known to mutter "TCL is a stupid language" more than a few
> times (typically during code reviews), but it does have a few things
> going for it.  It's dead simple to learn, reasonably powerful, and it's
> trivial to imbed (simplier than Python).
> Still, for all that, I suspect it's a bit of an evolutionary dead end.

I agree. There's a huge amount of intertia since, for many applications,
there isn't a whole lot of difference between the four major scripting

John Roth

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