Is anyone using Python for .NET?

Paul Boddie paul at boddie.net
Thu Dec 18 06:45:07 EST 2003


"Brandon J. Van Every" <try_vanevery_at_mycompanyname at yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<brr9mc$6gnls$1 at ID-207230.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> "Paul Boddie" <paul at boddie.net> wrote in message
> news:23891c90.0312170334.2cee015 at posting.google.com...
> >
> > I'm no big fan of Sun or Java, but that's quite some industry
> > leadership you're showing us, Brandon. ;-)
> 
> *I'm* showing you?  Since when was I Microsoft?

Rephrasing:

  1. That's quite some industry leadership you're revealing to us.
  2. That's quite some industry leadership you're referring us to.
  3. That's quite some industry leadership to which you're
     referring us.

Suggestion #3 is for the "to boldly go" crowd. On the other hand, if
Sherlock Holmes was in any sense accurate, perhaps you are Microsoft.
;-)

> I guess your point is whether you think Java or .NET is responsible for the
> interop principles of .NET.

Not at all. My point was that .NET apparently got cooked up when Sun
rained on Microsoft's J++ parade. A lot of old timers made comparable
remarks when Java emerged back in the mid-nineties because the
portable virtual machine thing has a long history and has produced a
lot of compelling competitors to Java, although the Java security
model does seem like a differentiator to me.

> I'd say the latter, since otherwise, it would be Java and we'd all be
> doing our language interop in Java.

Well, I get a fair amount of mileage out of Jython, Apache Axis (SOAP)
and so on, but I guess that this isn't your point. I think it is
widely accepted that Java was never really made for in-process
interfacing with other languages, or at least that JNI (or whatever
they call it now) is "nasty". From what I see, Microsoft may have
tried a bit harder on that front, and I can imagine that the Mono
people have pushed it even further to leverage various components
implemented in C/C++.

Perhaps we will be doing all our development in .NET-related
technologies in five years time. I just hope that if this is the case,
Microsoft don't do a SCO and hit everyone up with $799 "licence"
demands.

Paul




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