For review: PEP 308 - If-then-else expression

Paul Moore gustav at
Sat Feb 8 21:19:56 CET 2003

Erik Max Francis <max at> writes:

> So you'd want conditional expressions in things like [example in C]:
> 	printf("I have %d %s%s.\n", count, noun, count == 1 ? "" : "s");
> Here's an example where I want to do an if...else but that is really a
> minor point the big picture.  The if...else is necessary, but it isn't
> the main focus.

Actually, this is an interesting example. To look at the same problem
another way, you could write

    def quantify(noun, count):
        if count == 1:
            return noun
            return noun + "s"

    print "I have %d %s" % (count, quantify(noun, count))

which, to my mind, is even more clear (especially if you put a little
more effort into naming the "quantify" function than I did).

It also has some other advantages:

    * If you need to change the rules, you only have one place to
      change. With this example, there's the obvious case of
      internationalisation where you might need to do this.
    * If and when you *do* change it, you don't hit problems if the
      change doesn't conform to the pattern of simply changing or
      adding a suffix.

If I as feeling pedantic, I could argue that not having a conditional
expression is *good* because it avoids you getting sucked into writing
code with maintenance issues like this... Of course, you can't make
people write good code - someone who misses conditional expressions is
more likely to just write something like

    s = "s"
    if count = 1: s = ""
    print "I have %d %s%s" % (count, noun, s)

and complain that it would have been much simpler with a conditional
expression :-)

Or, to put it another way, not having conditional expressions makes
you think about how to overcome the lack. And anything that makes you
think about the best way to code something can't be all bad.

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