Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote in message news:<mailman.1044638179.4983.python-list at python.org>... -0.5 for the idea in general. Keep it simple. Does a ternary operator make life that much better? It adds another barrier to picking up Python quickly. -1.0 for any ?: or ?! or any other purely punctuation based syntax. Yours, Noah