Threading and TCP server

Jp Calderone exarkun at
Fri Feb 7 19:13:42 CET 2003

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:33:50PM -0800, Ehab Teima wrote:
> Jp Calderone <exarkun at> wrote in message news:<mailman.1044555974.4801.python-list at>...
> > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:17:27AM -0800, Ehab Teima wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > [snip - blocking threads block entire server]
> > 
> >   At least two options exist:
> > 
> >     Extend your use of threads to include whatever sys call (I'm assuming
> > os.system()) you're passing commands to.  That is, call os.system("sleep
> > 60") from a separate thread from the main server.
> > 
> >     Use os.popen() or os.openpty() to execute the commands, and then handle
> > the resulting file objects asynchronously.
> I am not sure this will work. I am already using os.popen to launch
> the process. Also, the whole client request, including the popen call,
> is handled on its own thread. In other words, the popen call is handle
> within the client thread as well. Therefore, I do not think that
> adding another thread for that specific popen call will help. The
> problem disappears when I use spawnv with os.P_NOWAIT since it does
> not wait for the process to finish. Any other method that waits for
> the process, does trap the server.

  Perhaps I haven't entirely understood your circumstance.  To clarify, I
was suggesting that os.system() blocks until the executed command is
finished, while neither os.popen() nor os.openpty() do.  If you are calling
either of the latter two methods from a separate thread from where you call
accept() and start new threads, there should be no issue.  If there is, you
may have a locking issue, or something else "minor" that is hanging things
up.  On the other hand, if you weren't calling os.system() in the first
place, the problem may lie elsewhere.

> Aside from that, openpty is only available on Unix, the code has to
> work on three Unix platforms in addition to Windows.

  Then I suppose openpty isn't something you'd want to use - on non-POSIX
platforms.  You are running system-specific commands, though, so it seems
that system-specific ways of invoking them makes sense.  There are libraries
that will take care of this for you, invoking the most appropriate method
depending on the platform on which the program is running.

> >   Stepping back from the specifics and looking at the problem as a whole,
> > I'd recommend using something like Twisted - -
> > to solve this problem.  It handles the process abstraction for you, it
> > handles multiplexing clients for you, it does all the socket code, and it
> > doesn't even rely on threads.


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