Implicit lists
holger krekel
pyth at devel.trillke.net
Thu Jan 30 14:23:06 EST 2003
Alex Martelli wrote:
> holger krekel wrote:
> ...
> > I think it's safer to skip "iteration" with an explicit
> >
> > isinstance(arg, (str, unicode))
> >
> > check. It's also simpler to read and understand.
>
> And it breaks *EVERY* use of UserString -- a module in the
> standard Python library, even!!! -- not to mention user-coded
> string-like types and classes. *shudder*.
sorry, but fewer scream-emoticons would suffice to make
your point.
> A class is string-like if it acts like a string.
The problem is how to catch the string-likeness in
explicit terms. You propose to execute
obj + 'somestring'
and see if it throws a type error. To me this
definition of 'string-like' makes some sense but
is arbitrary. (At least you get problems with
iterable objects that define an __add__ method which
accepts strings, you know that).
However, it feels like an implicit kind of type-check.
The general pythonic "avoid checking for types, just
work with behaviour and catch exceptions" does not
really apply here. We want to *prevent* something
instead of react to erranonous behaviour.
> def isstringlike(x):
> try: return x+'!'
> except TypeError: return False
This will often work, as you said. But if this behaviour
is (in some way) exposed in a public API then users
might get strange surprises when passing in their own stuff.
You never know what strange classes might get passed in.
Maybe it's a "filename" class that allows iteration and
allows __add__ with strings?
regards,
holger
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