Copyright on the Python and Python-console icons?

Mike C. Fletcher mcfletch at rogers.com
Wed Jan 15 02:37:57 EST 2003


Before anyone gets hurt ;) .  My question was actually just "who holds 
the copyright" :) .  I have enough on Tim (less on Mark, but he gave his 
copyright away, so I'm safe there ;) ) that I feel pretty safe from any 
PSF pogroms should they emerge :) .

Of course, that's how they get you; so your cautious advice is 
well-taken. If you don't say anything as long as you feel safe then one 
day they're at your door and there's no one to stand up for you. Lawyers 
are, after all, strongly motivated by personal financial interest to 
increase the total litigation in the world (and to think we go to them 
for advice about the law, what a conflict of interest!)  Obviously what 
we need to do is to all take a stand and do away with the litigationist 
aspects of society, they feel safe, they're easy targets...

I just didn't want to have someone who had made the icons free solely 
for distribution in the official Python distro getting upset if I 
redistribute them, or more critically (I've used them personally 
before), if IDEs that charge money to peoples include an icon-set with 
those icons in turn included.

Walk softly, carry a big closet of skeletons,
Mike

Erik Max Francis wrote:

>Tim Peters wrote:
>
>  
>
>>The question is why Mike should be more afraid of getting sued by the
>>PSF
>>than you are?  The PSF also holds the copyright on the files he's
>>asking
>>about, and Mike has the same license *from* the PSF to use them as you
>>have.
>>Now anyone at all can sue Mike for anything at all, but since the PSF
>>holds
>>the copyright on those files, only the PSF has legal standing to sue
>>him for
>>copyright violation.  Telling him he should be afraid of that remains,
>>in my
>>eyes, bizarre.  That doesn't mean he won't be sued <wink>.
>>    
>>
>
>You keep emphasizing the word _afraid_, which I never used.  I never
>told him he should be _afraid_ of getting sued.  I simply said that the
>safest course of action -- as it is in any legal situation -- is to get
>explicit permission in the form of a piece of paper with a signature on
>it.
>
>He asked for information about the legality of using certain copyrighted
>materials, and was met with an ambiguous response -- a response which
>disclaimed its own legal applicability.  At this point it's only
>sensible to secure explicit permission or not bother; it sounded, after
>all, like using these materials was not crucial to his project anyway.
>
>You're the one trying to inflate this into a huge issue; I simply gave
>him standard, reasonable advice on the use of copyrighted mateirals.
>  
>
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