ANNOUNCE: JOTWeb 1.11, preview of new web application system.
djc at object-craft.com.au
Tue Jun 24 06:41:59 CEST 2003
>>>>> "Sean" == Sean Reifschneider <jafo-pythonlist at tummy.com> writes:
Sean> On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:20:35AM +1000, Dave Cole wrote:
>> OK. I think I have been arguing the wrong issue :-)
Sean> Yeah, I think that may be the case... :-) It does really boil
Sean> down to a subjective issue, I don't like always having to have
Sean> the python code that calls into the template.
I have no problem with that. For some applications that is a more
Sean> I would like to suggest that you include an example earlier on
Sean> about making the global name-space available and an example of
Sean> the abbreviated calling mechanisms. It was clear from my half
Sean> hour of reading the docs that I could get by with anything less
Sean> than a dozen lines of code...
The documentation is never as good as it should be.
Sean> Most of it is that I'm working from an understanding of
Sean> Albatross which is much shallower than yours. The examples in
Sean> the documentation are rather unlike the shorter examples you've
Sean> provided here.
The sample applications could certainly be improved.
Sean> One thing that I do like in JOTWeb is the cascading of modules
Sean> and HTML templates. I set up a "templates.html" page in the
Sean> top-level directory, and sub-directories can reference the
Sean> templates within it, ditto for code or variables, etc...
JOTWeb makes me think of server-side includes that are useful and
extensible. So useful that you can actually build an application with
Sean> It seems likely that I could do something similar with
Sean> Albatross, now that we've had this discussion, as I said in a
Sean> previous message.
Sean> I'm half tempted to either incorporate the ability to do this
Sean> with Albatross in addition to SimpleTAL into JOTWeb, or look at
Sean> switching over to Albatross...
SimpleTAL in Albatross would be a cool thing. Pluggable templating is
not really supported in Albatross. I suspect that you could get
something going fairly quickly though.
Sean> However, I really want to be building sites right now. <sigh>
Real work - how boring :-)
Sean> I had looked at the mixin reference quickly when I first looked
Sean> at the docs, but I couldn't really understand how they were of
Sean> use... Examples in this section of the document would be
Sean> extremely useful to new Albatross users.
Documentation is not as good as it could/should be in quite a few
Albatross is intended to be a little bit more than just a toolkit for
building applications. In a sense it is also a toolkit construction
kit. The documentation does not really stress the toolkit
construction part though.
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