help! advocacy resources needed fast

[Cameron Laird]

In article <RFm9a.187098$zL6.39474 at news2.central.cox.net>,
Steve Holden <sholden at holdenweb.com> wrote:
>"Geoff Gerrietts" <geoff at gerrietts.net> wrote in message
>news:mailman.1046819836.25704.python-list at python.org...
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>> One of the guys who's been with the organization for a long time wants
>> to go to a Java-based approach. The long term viability, he maintains,
>> is better, and the short term boost in performance per box in the cage
>> is also better.
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>I assume here he is arguing that Java is long-term "more viable" than Python
>because of the huge marketing slush-fund that Sun have thrown at the
>language. Ignore that it's object-oriented Cobol. Ignore that programmer
>productivity will go down: compare
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>    SAXParserFactory factory = SAXParserFactory.newInstance();
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>with
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>    factory = xml.sax.make_parser()
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>Worse than the fact tha the declarations aren't necessary is the fact that
>common Java style actually hides the name of the variable as a tiny word in
>the middle of a humungous declaration text like the above. I liked Java when
>it was small. Since it scaled up to match its overblown plans for world
>domination it's almost as bad as any other piece of bloatware. The API is
>just too big and too all-encompassing.
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There is sooooo much to say on these topics.  I don't 
know where to begin.

On alternate hours, I feel like giving up the fight.
Struts with, say, Tomcat, is an entirely realistic ap-
proach.  This isn't because Sun says so, or because 
Java is something other than object-oriented Cobol.
It's more that Struts gives a lot of serious function-
ality, and people who like Struts are unlikely to get
the point of Python's far more light-weight (in a good
sense) style.
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