Python syntax in Lisp and Scheme

[Pascal Costanza]

Rainer Joswig wrote:
> In article <6CZgb.3273$dn6.860 at newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
>  "Andrew Dalke" <adalke at mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> snip
>  
> 
>>And here's Table 31-2
>>
>>                           Statements per
>>Language          Level    Function Point
>>--------          -----    --------------
>>Assembler          1           320
>>Ada 83             4.5          70
>>AWK               15            25
>>C                  2.5         125
>>C++                6.5          50
>>Cobol (ANSI 85)    3.5          90
>>dBase IV           9            35
>>spreadsheets      ~50            6
>>Focus               8           40
>>Fortran 77          3          110
>>GW Basic            3.25       100
>>Lisp                5           65
>>Macro assembler     1.5        215
>>Modula 2            4           80
>>Oracle              8           40
>>Paradox             9           35
>>Pascal              3.5         90
>>Perl               15           25
>>Quick Basic 3       5.5         60
>>SAS, SPSS, etc.    10           30
>>Smalltalk (80 & V) 15           20
>>Sybase              8           40
>>Visual Basic 3     10           30
>>
>>  Source: Adapted from data in 'Programming Languages
>>                                    Table' (Jones 1995a)
> 
> 
> I thought these numbers were bogus. Weren't many
> of them just guesses with actually zero data
> or methodology behind them???

Apart from that, what does the author mean by "Lisp"? Is it Common Lisp 
or some other Lisp dialect? Scheme?

According to this table, Modula-2 and Lisp are in the same league - I 
have used both languages, and this just doesn't align with my experience.

Furthermore, CLOS can be regarded as a superset of Smalltalk. How can it 
be that Smalltalk is more than three times better than Lisp? Even if you 
take Scheme that doesn't come with an object system out of the box, you 
can usually add one that is at least as powerful as Smalltalk. Or did 
they add the LOC of infrastructure libraries to their results?


Pascal