Python syntax in Lisp and Scheme

Doug Tolton doug at nospam.com
Wed Oct 8 17:16:58 EDT 2003


Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters wrote:

> Alex Martelli:
> |>Why, thanks!  Nice to see that I'm getting on the nerves of _some_
> |>people, too, not just having them get on mine.
> 
> Doug Tolton <doug at nospam.com> wrote previously:
> |Yes, this discussion is frustrating.  It's deeply frustrating to hear
> |someone without extensive experience with Macros arguing why they are
> |so destructive.
> 
> If that is meant to address Alex Martelli, it is very deeply misguided.
> If there is anyone who I can say with confidence has much more
> experience--and much better understanding--of macros (or of all things
> Lisp) than does Doug Tolton, it is Alex.
> 
> Yours, Lulu...
> 

That was an interestingly ingorant statement.  I'm very suprised that 
you would feel the *least* bit qualified to offer that statement.  You 
don't know me or my background.  Alex has stated on many occasions that 
he has not worked with Macros, but that he is relying on second hand 
information.

I don't claim to be a guru on Lisp, however I believe I understand it 
far better than Alex does.  If the people who actually know and use 
Common Lisp think I am mis-speaking and mis-representing Lisp, please 
let me know and I will be quiet.

What is your background with Common Lisp David?  Why do you feel so 
eminently qualified to offer yourself as the expert on Lisp?  I have 
seen some FP from you, but I haven't seen much in the way of Lisp code. 
  Did you study it in school?  Have you really tried to build production 
quality system with Lisp?

Like I said, I'm not an expert at Lisp, but I think I understand the 
spirit and semantics of Lisp far better than Alex, and from what I've 
seen you say I wouldn't be suprised if I knew it better than you do as well.

-- 
Doug Tolton
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