Generators versus Coroutines
tim.peters at gmail.com
Sat Aug 14 22:24:54 CEST 2004
> It seems to me that in python, generators are not truly coroutines.
Yes, formally speaking Python generators are semi-coroutines.
> I do not understand why.
Please read the PEP:
> What I see is that generators are used almost exclusively for
> generation of lists just-in-time. Side effects are frowned upon.
Simple uses are naturally most common.
> Coroutines, in contrast, are like split functions where
> side effects are often as important or more important than return
> values. I am currently writing a real time strategy game where I have
> visual effects and use generators as coroutines which yield after
> processing a single frame of the effect. I can easily make an object
> rotate indefinitely with a scant four or five lines of code, all of
> which is in one place. So knowing that the difference between a
> generator and a coroutine is minor, I come (in a very roundabout way)
> to my issue. Why can I use "return" without an expression and it
> implicitly returns None
If you explicitly intend to return None as a value, it's terrible
practice to spell that as
instead of as
It's equally terrible practice to rely on that "falling off the end"
of a Python function returns None, when you expliclty intend to return
a None value.
Plain "return" is intended to be used in Python only when
*conceptually* no value is being returned, as in "a subroutine" as
opposed to "a function". The language doesn't enforce the latter
distinction, but it's intended all the same.
> but I can't do the same thing with "yield" ?
It's the purpose of "yield" to deliver a value. There was no intent
that it be possible to yield without delivering a value. If you want
to deliver the value None, then say
If you want a concept of yielding without delivering a value, that's
simply not a use case Python's generators intended to address. If you
wish, you can adhere to a *convention* that "yield None" (or "yield
False", or "yield 42", ...) means "I'm not really delivering a value".
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