On consensus decision-making (was Re: Alternative decorator syntax - POLL RESULTS SO FAR - ARE WEDONE?)

Arthur ajsiegel at optonline.com
Sun Aug 22 21:27:51 CEST 2004


On 22 Aug 2004 19:36:38 +0300, Ville Vainio <ville at spammers.com>
wrote:

>
>Obviously people who don't want any syntax at all should be ignored in
>the consensus building process...

I hate to contribute to a change in tone to what has been a pretty
civil controversy, all things considered, and Anthony's private hate
mail notwithstanding.

But that to me is a stupid remark.

We have syntax.  If we did not already have it, one could propose it
like any other syntax being proposed. If concensus would form around
that syntax  (it won't , among other reasons because the rules of the
game won't allow it) it's just consensus forming around a syntax.
Which is what the exercise is supposed to be about.

I have heard implicit and explicit threats on python-dev in the case
no new syntax made it into 2.4 - assumedly by people who *really* hate
some extra typing.  It is not unreasonable to assume that vehemence is
a good deal of what brought us here.  

I never made any threats about the non-acceptance of my non-Peps.  Or
anybody else's.

I guess we - among other things - can all have our own sense of what
makes a good citizen in PythonLand.

Ours apparently diverge.

Art



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