timrueAT at mindspringDOT.com
Sat Aug 21 19:16:57 CEST 2004
Erik Max Francis wrote:
> "Arthur T. Murray" wrote:
>>Now, suppose that you wanted to write an AI in Python that would
>>implement your mind-model and allow it to grow, mutate, develop.
>>Here is one possible scenario.
its a good thing we all use our minds alike, huh?
Oh wait, so why doesn't Arthur slander or libel himself?
In other words: regardless of whatever I may think of Arthur, he may
actually be applying effort to understand his own unique use of the mind
and then to code a mirror of it.
But this doesn't mean his effort is invalid (even considering the
difficultly cause by being inherently subjective), but only that it is
different than the way you use your mind. Do you fit the norm?
There are plenty of examples in human history where such non-standard
direction and use of the mind brought the whole race improvment in
living standards and enjoyment of life.
L. Da Vinci..... how did he use his mind to do all that he did?
Passon is another quality.
Perhaps the question to ask is: Does the code run?
I think that is about all that is required as qualifying to post in a
usenet comp.lang newsgroup.
As to negative responses to his posting to usenet.... it only shows that
there are more who prefer to act like some animal, a dog perhaps, trying
to bury their favorite bone.
The point is:
its only a matter of time before people on teh internet become
experienced enough with what to expect that such psuedo FAQs and the
likes are realized for what they are. Attempts to control the thought
process of others whom they probably don't know.
Maybe like how the roman numeral accountants promoted "how can nothing
have value? what such a foolish contridiction" in reference to the zero
place holder. And done so in order to protect their position/status in
society and the rewards of it, if not just their own self programming of
Imagine, if you are capable of it, that the human mind is programmable.
What program do you have running?
I can't say I understand what Arthur is on about and I don't believe its
possible to create anything more than the illusion of intelligence in
machine, but he has never done anything to put me on a negative side
And if I don't want to read his posting, well then nobody is forcing me
to. I know how to exercise "choice"! All those who feel that they must
suppress others via the generation of attacks upon them...... well they
appear less capable of using their minds. What sort of AI reflection of
their own minds would they create?
Or is there no "I"ntelligence in their obvious "A"rtificialness.
This is a python language newsgroup, but clearly there are those who
want it to be more constrained than that. There are those who want it to
become either what they want it to be or a negative septic tank, of
which either way its a "my way of no way" line of crap.
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