what is best for web development??

Graham Fawcett graham__fawcett at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 15 06:28:57 CET 2004

llothar at web.de (Lothar Scholz) wrote in message news:<6ee58e07.0401140638.672d50a7 at posting.google.com>...
> graham__fawcett at hotmail.com (Graham Fawcett) wrote in message news:<e9570f37.0401121052.ed79710 at posting.google.com>...
> > Wilk <wilkSPAM at OUTflibuste.net> wrote in message news:<87oet9grqy.fsf at blakie.
> > If it has to be a one-shot install, I would suggest a Web server
> > written in Python -- Medusa or Twisted, probably -- that you could
> > bundle with your Python app. Find a Web app framework that (a) works
> > on Medusa or Twisted and (b) has the templating features you
> > require/desire.
> I would not recommend this. A distribution with an own apache server
> seems to be the best. It is easy to hide the setup and the customers
> know that there is a good working technologie behind the scenes. And
> it can be managed by every normal administrator. This is a very
> important point for larger customers.

Therefore, you are suggesting ASP running on IIS? Or JSP + SunONE +
Oracle? <0.5 wink> Few Python solutions would satisfy the customer who
bears this level of concern.

There are countless potential customers for Intranet applications who
will never be able to install Apache. Many of them will never meet a
"normal administrator"  -- by which I assume you mean the "FOSS-savvy,
got Knoppix right here on my keydrive" variety, not the
MS/Lotus/Netware kind -- let alone employ one. They still deserve and
will pay for Intranet apps, and the company that can deliver and
deploy them easily will have a business advantage.

(I will never forget the first time I delivered such an app to a
client, and told him "just run the setup program", and he had a fully
functional Web app -- Web server, database and all -- running 40
seconds later. Nor will I forget the funny sound his jaw made as it
hit the floor.)

Lastly, almost any app that will run on a Python web server will also
run on Apache et. al., right? Unless you design it with Apache-centric
features; but I don't know if your concerned customer would appreciate
unnecessary platform lock-in! Offer both a Quick-Start and an FCGI
flavour of your app, and let the customer decide what he's capable of

In my book, an application that scales down (embedded httpd) as well
as up (Apache, etc.) beats a scaled-up-and-nowhere-to-go app any day.

Best wishes,

-- G

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