FW: Good IDE for Python

Fuzzyman michael at foord.net
Wed Jun 16 21:11:04 CEST 2004


Grégoire Dooms <dooms at info.LESS.ucl.SPAM.ac.be> wrote in message news:<40cf1b0d$0$41758$5fc3050 at dreader2.news.tiscali.nl>...
> Hi,
> 
> You need the 'patch' program to apply a patch, the 'diff' program to 
> produce one.
> If you are under windows you should get cygwin at http://www.cygwin.com/
> though you could maybe get a standalone diff and patch program for windows.
> 
> I've set-up an archive of the patched files in the Lib/idlelib directory 
> for you to download the files affected by the patch:
> get it at http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/~dooms/idle-syntax-patched-files.zip
> just unzip and copy the files in your idlelib dir.
> 
> HTH
> --
> Grégoire Dooms
> 

Thanks Greg,

Very helpful... as soon as I've transferred the files from this
rickerty old internet box I'll try it immediately...

Regards,

Fuzzy

> 
> Fuzzyman wrote:
> > "Fred Allen" <fallen at leveltwo.com> wrote in message news:<mailman.949.1087233495.6949.python-list at python.org>...
> > 
> >>Dear Michael,
> >>
> >>I've searched fruitlessly for your recommended IDLE patch's download 
> >>point. While I am probably only slightly slower than the average python 
> >>programmer, I expect that others, no less witless than I, have had 
> >>similar experience. Would you please post either explicit instructions 
> >>by which I (we) can find the download. With thanks in advance, I am,
> >>
> >>Gratefully,
> >>
> >>Fred Allen
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Fred,
> > 
> > In actual fact I replied to Gregoire (?) asking how to *apply* the
> > patch (I did succeed in downloading it though !)... it's not actually
> > my patch. Whilst I've managed to download the patch I haven't a clue
> > what to do with it... and I was hoping Greg would let me know.....
> > 
> > If you go to :
> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group_id=5470&atid=305470
> > 
> > Right at the bottom there is a heading saying 'Attached Files'. Below
> > this it says :
> >  syntaxdiffs Diffs agains CVS in 29.02.04 Download 
> > 
> > Needless to say the download link.. is the download one. The actual
> > link is :
> > 
> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=5470&atid=305470&file_id=78388&aid=906702
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > 
> > Fuzzy
> > 
> > http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Fuzzyman [mailto:michael at foord.net] 
> >>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:35 AM
> >>To: python-list at python.org
> >>Subject: Re: Good IDE for Python
> >>
> >>Gr goire Dooms <dooms at info.LESS.ucl.SPAM.ac.be> wrote in message 
> >>news:<40cc1b05$0$41764$5fc3050 at dreader2.news.tiscali.nl>...
> >>
> >>>Kamilche wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I love Python, but I'm less than in love with IDLE. It's OK, but it
> >>>>really doesn't have enough capabilities.
> >>>>
> >>>>What I consider critical, are a popdown listing of all my functions,
> >>>>colored syntax printing, and a right-click 'definition' context menu
> >>>>that will hop you to the spot where that keyword is defined, if
> >>>>possible. Everything else I could learn to do without, but these
> >>>>features keep me hoping for a better IDE for Python.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm used to the Microsoft Visual C++ debugger, and though tooltip
> >>>>variable debugging and intellisense were nice, they broke often 
> >>
> >> enough
> >>
> >>>>that you couldn't rely on them anyway, so I don't really need those
> >>>>features.
> >>>>
> >>>>I would also like the ability to create application 'forms' 
> >>
> >> visually.
> >>
> >>>>I'm on a Windows XP machine.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any suggestions on what I should install next?
> >>>
> >>>This patch to IDLE improves it a bit:
> >>>
> >>
> >>http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group
> >> id=5470&atid=305470
> >>
> >>>It adds among other things the pop-down function list.
> >>>It's a little cumbersome to apply but the result is quite good.
> >>>I've been using it for a few days and I'm quite happy with it.
> >>>I may provide a patch against python 2.3.3 or another version if 
> >>
> >> someone 
> >>
> >>>is interrested.
> >>>
> >>>If you are interresed, I made a smaller patch adding the qualified 
> >>
> >> name 
> >>
> >>>autocompletion (module.<Alt-/>functions). But the former patch does it 
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>>better (it even supports filename autocompletion).
> >>
> >>This looks *very* interesting.
> >>How do you apply a patch like this ?
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Fuzzy
> >>http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html



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