Prothon Prototypes vs Python Classes
mark at hahnca.com
Mon Mar 29 23:42:25 CEST 2004
I would greatly appreciate it if you could take a peek at my stackless
implementation and give me a grade :)
I don't know if you remember me, but I pissed you off in a rude posting I
made in a reply to you months ago (I apologize once again). I was trying to
pickle a complicated graph of objects and getting recursions limit errors in
Python. You were very helpfully telling me how to get around the problem in
a long message and I replied curtly and rudely that Python was broken and
I'd rather write something from scratch than try to use broken tools (it was
a bad day).
To make a long story short, that was the straw that broke the camel's back
and caused me to start work on Prothon. I had been daydreaming about an
extrememly simple but powerful language with just a pile of lockable objects
for some time. The fact that is uses Python syntax is secondary and only
because I like the syntax. My real love is the internal object structure,
threading, and interpreter.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Tismer" <tismer at stackless.com>
To: "Mark Hahn" <mark at prothon.org>
Cc: <python-list at python.org>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: Prothon Prototypes vs Python Classes
> Mark Hahn wrote:
> > Mutability is an interesting area. I just added an unmutable bit in the
> > Prothon internal object which makes the read_lock call a no-op and
> > write_lock call to throw an exception. This makes the object
> > write-protected and makes the lock code run much faster.
> > I did this for internal performance reasons, but after doing it I
> > that extending it to the Ruby freeze() level would be really good.
> > the freezing in somehow to the bang! methods is also in interesting area
> > research.
> > Mark Hahn (Prothon Author)
> > P.S. If this belongs in the Prothon list instead of Python, let us know.
> Allthough I'm a known Python-addict, I find this very interesting.
> Being prototyped instead of class based was one of the features
> share this so much, there are many other much worse problems.
> I'm eager to learn how a real language develops if it consequently
> builds upon prototypes. Especially this one, since it is stackless
> by nature. :-)
> ciao - chris
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