Parallelization on muli-CPU hardware?
Neil Hodgson
nhodgson at bigpond.net.au
Mon Oct 11 18:01:33 EDT 2004
Luis P Caamano:
> Therefore, fixing the GIL was always in competition with existing code
> and libraries, and it always lost because it was (and still is)
> considered "not worth the effort."
Greg Stein implemented a "free-threaded" version of Python in 1996 and
had another look in 2000.
http://python.tpnet.pl/contrib-09-Dec-1999/System/threading.README
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-April/003605.html
So, it is not the initial implementation of a GIL-free Python that is
the stumbling block but the maintenance of the code. The poor performance of
free-threaded Python contributed to the lack of interest.
> That's probably the main disagreement I have
> with those that think that the GIL is not a big problem, IPC is not a
> solution but a workaround.
For me, the GIL works fine because it is released around I/O operations
which are the bottlenecks in the types of application I write.
> - Let users lock, not the interpreter. If you use threads and you
> access global objects without locking, you might get undefined
> behaviors, just like in C/C++.
That will cause problems for much existing code.
> Unfortunately, those changes are big enough that I don't think they'll
> happen under the CPython source tree even we all wanted them.
It won't happen until the people that think this is a problem are
prepared to provide the effort to maintain free-threaded Python.
Neil
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