Emacs is going to die! =( [was Re: Emacs + python (Was Re: python is going to die! =()
David Rush
kumoyuki at gmail.com
Fri Oct 1 05:49:12 EDT 2004
Ville Vainio <ville at spammers.com> wrote in message news:<du7fz5a8tte.fsf_-_ at lehtori.cc.tut.fi>...
> That's the whole problem with emacs - lack of resources. Nobody
> bothers do anything "seriously".
And they do in the Eclipse world? Bah. I've just spent two weeks trying
to come to terms with Eclipse. I couldn't even how to figure out how to
get brace-matching to work for a scripting language that is not supported
by the default distribution.
> And when people within the emacs
> community do things they pick bizarre ways of doing things, possibly
> because they are often Lisp lovers that like to "think different".
It's not because Lisp-heads like to think different. It's because Lisp
allows you to think differently. Programming for Emacs though is a bit
of a different animal from most programming because of the basic data
model. When the goal of a program is (extensive) side-effects on a
string things look a bit ... different. Just wait. Eclipse programming
will go down this road by the time it reaches the level of maturity of
current Emacsen.
> Eclipse will no doubt take over.
I do see the possibility, but the Eclipse community is going to have to
more eagerly embrace the non-Java world.
> Emacs might need a fresh start,
> but it's hardly likely; most probably a new project would be seen as
> further dillution of already scarce emacs resources.
The big problem is backward compatibility with the *huge* base of
existing elisp code.
> Luckily we emacs fans still have hope in eclipse -
How? I'm feeling awfully let down that the appearance of the Eclipse
community does not seem to match the reality.
david rush
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