webserverless Python Wiki Engines: do they exists?

Brian van den Broek bvande at po-box.mcgill.ca
Thu Oct 7 20:19:01 CEST 2004


Peter L Hansen said unto the world upon 2004-10-07 06:51:
> Brian van den Broek wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking for a stand alone Python wiki engine that does not require 
>> a web server such as Apache or MS IIS. I have found such beasts in 
>> other languages (e.g. <http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EddiesWiki> in C++, and 
>> a couple in Ruby), but none written in Python. A pointer to any that 
>> I've missed would be most appreciated.

<SNIP>

> I suspect the standalone Moin-moin approach would be best, though
> I believe at least one of the other lightweight ones is able to
> run standalone.
> 
> You *have* see http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines, haven't you?
> It identifies those that are in Python and standalone...
> 
> -Peter

Thanks Peter, Carlos, and Guyon,

The story below is partly for future google hits:

At first, I did try moin-moin. I downloaded 1.2.3 as since I've never 
set-up a Moin-moin wiki, the beta in 1.3beta troubled me. I started an 
install and saw in the installation instructions txt file that 1.2.3 
came with said:

 > You currently need an external webserver to run MoinMoin.

Having seem Mon-moin being listed as standalone on 
<http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines>, I tried the wiki's docs at 
<http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling>, and got the same 
information on some of the pages it wiki-linked.

Frustrated, I turned back to <http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines>, 
following several others described as "standalone". Similar situation: 
for instance PikiPiki's install instruction file says:

 > Make sure you have a web server that will let you run CGIs

Each one I tried said (things I interpreted as meaning), that I needed 
Apache, IIS, or some other form of webserver.

Thinking I must not understand what "standalone" means in this context, 
I posted last night's query.

Convinced by both Peter's and Carlos's mention of Moin-moin in their 
responses, I dug again. It turns out 
<http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling_2fStandAloneOnWin32> 
does indeed have stand alone (no webserver) instructions. Evidently, I'd 
been looking at <http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/>, which, on this 
topic at least, is not as up to date as 
<http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de>. (Unfortunately, it is the moinmaster 
version of the install instructions that came bundled with 1.2.3)

Sadly, the <http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb> version of the Win32 install 
docs also says at one point:

 > Not yet revised to take into account the stand-alone web server

So, the docs don't seem entirely up to date nor consistent. But I'm 
working on working it out. (If I don't get it soon, time to go bug the 
moin-moin people.)

Tanks again for the help, folks, and I hope the account above might help 
someone in the future, too.

Best to all,

Brian vdB




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