Xah Lee's Unixism

jmfbahciv at aol.com jmfbahciv at aol.com
Fri Sep 3 12:32:40 CEST 2004


In article <opsdpdzglzpqzri1 at mjolner.upc.no>,
   "John Thingstad" <john.thingstad at chello.no> wrote:
>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 08:35:30 GMT, Brian Inglis  
><Brian.Inglis at SystematicSW.Invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:26:03 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, "John W.
>> Kennedy" <jwkenne at attglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Andre Majorel wrote:
>>>> On 2004-08-31, Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis at SystematicSW.Invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 01:12:55 +0000 (UTC) in alt.folklore.computers,
>>>>> Andre Majorel <amajorel at teezer.fr> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2004-08-30, Antony Sequeira <usemyfullname at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows (MS) is not 'Unixism'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If by unixism, you mean any operating system that has a
>>>>>> hierarchical filesystem and byte stream files, yes. But that
>>>>>> would include quite a few other non-Unix operating systems,
>>>>>> including Mac OS 9, Prologue and probably everything else this
>>>>>> side of CP/M (DOS 1.x shall be deemed to be CP/M).
>>>>>
>>>>> DOS 2.x+ shall be deemed to be CP/M+!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't it in version 2 that they added directories and
>>>> Unix-style file handles ?
>>>
>>> Yes, and also a single-process pipe emulator.  Ever since 2.0, MS has
>>> been trying to turn MS-DOS (later, Windows) into a Unix clone.
>>
>> MS has been borrowing code from Unix to create a real OS: TCP/IP;
>> NTFS<-ffs; memory mapped files<-mmap.
>> Shame they keep trying to add their own ideas in too: that must be
>> what causes the crashes!
>>
>
>You seeem misinformed.
>Microsoft swallowed up a team from DEC.
>The were developing a operating system called PRISM.

Which was Cutler's view of what VMS should be.  Assuming
he hadn't change, this would not have delivered computing
system services to users.

>When the project was cancelled they quit DEC in protest.
>These peaple had more than a 100 years of experience in developing  
>muliuser /
>mutitasking operating systems between them.

100 years total isn't much experience.

> .. The fact that the NT kernel is  
>not
>entirely stable yet really shouldn't supprise anyone. Afterall Unix has  
>messed with
>it's kernel for 30 years.

PRISM is as old as Unix...actually older.


<snip>

/BAH

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